Some subjects and their premises are easier to present than others, and  this is one that is bizarre, first and foremost because of the near ridiculous consideration. Everyday we find  more  evidence that suggests that legends and lore and even the simplest of children stories have a basis  no matter how remote in fact. Though this  may seem a trip into inanity, it is a fun sort, especially when you find that much of it  echos with the  truths  recorded not by the  village idiot of the middle ages, but by the world directing institutions of the past  and the both civil and military records of the present.Rip van Winkle/another look

A dry patch of earth, on a hillside beneath a shady tree, the suns warmth radiating around its cooling shelter,  maybe even a breeze to make relaxing  there a perfect picture,Rip Van Winkle, and thousands, if not millions of other idle dreamers have  rested with a similar view of the sky  through the tree branches,the clouds the last things remembered as sleep, came over them.

But just for laughs, read the poem, I mean really read the poem. Rip is roused  by a dwarf like man very grim and strange. He follows him up the mountain higher and higher until he comes to a group of figures  like him.

They are involved in what, to him, appears like a game like bowling.  He is offered an odd, strong drink and states he likes it.  After this we have his sleep. When he awakens he finds the wood of his rifle rotted completely away,  his beard is long and he limps regretfully back into town, aware of little but the verbal punishment  he will receive from his wife, one he is surprised to find long dead. He has been away long enough his daughter has grown.

Abductions seem full of incidents involving groups of short figures and the act of being taken up,  (Missing time- Rips is considerable) is usually at the heart of this phenomena as well.

There are strange liquids offered to abductees;  liquid with varying effects and functions.   They, the abductees, are also, almost always, individuals returning in a great deal of disorientation.

Rip doesn’t mention grey aliens or reptilians or Nordics. No, instead  he describes the beings as being dwarf like figures. There are numerous reports of Dwarf like creatures being seen near spacecraft. These figures, like  Rips, are  grim of countenance.

When you add the fact that some  abductions also have a false  memory layered over them,  one that makes hypnotherapy sometimes necessary, you could suggest,  possibly, that he did encounter small beings but they disguised their true form, picking an image and clothing themselves in what they felt he would be more receptive to.   three different figures angelic,???  who knows they were the only light in the sky and movingcigar producing its own cloud cover or smoke screen

These false memories are for what purpose? Possibly to add less fear to the experience, make the abductee more complacent, more willing? It also may be placed in the mind to protect the identity of the abductors. Who knows for sure? All we can be certain of is that  tales like  Rip’s nearly bristle with commonalities and similarities with  most abduction scenarios.

Are we looking at everything that once was and should be  innocent, trying to find  the worst? Looking for the devil behind every tree?  No,  not at all, but you must admit that in the story not only of Rip Van Winkle’s but other fairy tales and bedtime stories, there are surprisingly strong  parallels, ones we hope to show in this article.detail ,, in a different light, is she a being who can fly or a prisoner?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We rarely attend the sky unless were faced with foul weather and it is about as interesting to most of us as that 7th cousin on your mother’s side. Our familiarity with it is twice the damning force in this disinterest.  So much of our lives, though sometimes spent working  out  under  it for long hours,  is time spent oblivious to it.

Our focus; sensibly, the area before us, or the road in front of our car, or  the horizon before us on a long drive, is our only focused or semi focused exposure.

Our references to it; idle chat about an interesting cloud with a lover on a picnic blanket or during a barbeque on the deck, that and references in songs poems and of course fairy tales.  We know Jack pierced them climbing the fast growing creation of his magic beans. We know, in the tale, he found not more clouds above as he climbed, but a solid land like surface, the grounds of a giant’s keep,  of course.  More adult; the mythological  stories of Icarus  and of Apollo. Every people have their own pantheon of beings godlike , with at least one  being they call the master of the sky,.

In examining the recorded history, artists show metal objects surprisingly detailed in the sky behind lords and ladies of the time, amid their palatial splendor.  The records are not just in the volumes of scholars and poets  and portrayed  in the paintings of  artists, but in the Clergy as well, some of them of high ranking .

We find that there are stories told  by amazing men, people with nothing to gain from their finds and much to lose. At a time when even statements of expanding science were considered evil, warranting a quick journey to the stake and fire ,the noose or the torturers knife, only the most  brave or diplomatic of men spoke and not whispered what was on their mind.

In fact,  the news of today and the recorded activities of the past are not so far apart. That  should surprise us little.  In some manners we have bettered ourselves, made life healthier, made advancements in  our transportation, our tools,our way of life, but aside from showing  the effects  of our abuse and miss management,  the world has really changed little .

Artists have showed us, with pigments they created from scratch, moments during their lives they could not ignore. Maybe their rich benefactors enjoyed the novelty of being pictured with not only their treasures, but as  part of a scene of a notable event .something hurrying over a ledge it seems to have a hat pointed, and a set of possibly facial features that look goblin or fairie like,, who knows what it is was, we never saw it agin.

The comparison with the photographer who tries, as well, to capture the moment, is clear enough, but there is a substantial leap between artists and photographers – and fairy tales, or is there?outline of head and hat and short thick arms

Lets start with a child’s tale, one  about a place in the clouds, inhabited by giants or strange beings.

Lets  try,tongue in cheek, to eliminate  or prove it, a notion so ridiculous it is considered a bed time story. Of course,  it’s  impossible. We know the quality of clouds, their insubstantial nature and their vulnerability to the wind.The story could have no basis in fact due to the most basic laws of science and our understanding of our environment.     So, maybe there is a problem that one would expect in the  middles ages, or the Renaissance or even an early American  period. Maybe it is one of interpretation?

Maybe we aren’t talking about Terra firma, grass and soil as the  base  for that mass in the sky, as much as any material substantial enough to hold weight capable of supporting itself , a substance not easily reduced to mud and silt by erosion .   This, with a  mass wide enough to be seen  from a distance, is able to, visually alone,create the illusion of  land in the air.    What could possibly fill those requirements?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, in conversations and literature and film dealing with ufology, the phrase mother ship comes up often.    For the uninformed these aren’t  in the classification of pixies and yard gnomes or the Easter Bunny,but instead are a reality and  have had their speeds  clocked  and recorded by military personnel as they circled our planet on radar. They have likewise been found in NASA  films, these craft are of amazing  size. Marina Popovich, a Russian Pilot, reports on her sighting of one… http://www.world-famous.com/Marina-Popovich/Marina-Popvitch-1.ht

Further comments  on them and their size are below;

http://ufomedia.blogspot.com/2008/11/ufo-motherships-proof-of-et.html

One strong indication that UFOs are not just paranormal phenomena is the physical proof and reports by military pilots of enormous UFO vessels reported since WWII. These massive “mother-ships” have been confirmed on radar. According to both radar and pilot reports, some mother-ships are over a mile long.

Mother-ships were not new although they were not reported as “motherships”. In one report by Hellcat pilots during WWII. The pilots were under standing orders to guard airspace over this certain location “at all costs”.

A craft, only a portion of the diameter of that described above, would still be so considerable in size that comparisons with a sky borne land mass could mistakenly be drawn by a simple mind, by the somewhat primitive understandings of the past.   Some  are seen with cloud vapor   surrounding it. Why wouldn’t the wind blow such a cover away, make it difficult to maintain and conceal the bulk of the craft?

The only explanation I can think of is that the craft, the object, is producing it’s own sky borne smoke screen.   If these objects are  self concealing, perhaps once their cover has been put in place, they create a field around their ship  that keeps their cloud like shroud undisturbed, confines it.   In one  of our photos,  taken over a plant in Butler, a cigar shaped machine with a round hole in its side seems to emit a vapor.one of the skulkers that we found in a corral in bates county

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So what other proof is there of a past knowledge of these sort of scenarios?  Among books on the subject by authors  such as Jim Hickman (5000 years of UFOs )and people like ex-air force Major Donald Keyhoe and many others, these subjects are covered in detail.  Aside from this,  history isn’t shy in this department as the following example shows.

The Archbishop Agobard of Lyon in AD-779 mentioned in his writings about a supposed celestial region known as Magona (I’m not sure of the spelling). People of the time were aware of it, not only the scholars but the common man. This was a place that strange vessels flew to among the clouds . They carried away things. The complete list we can only guess at but apparently humans were also part of it.     

Also, an entry by this same Arch- Bishop of an abduction of 3 men and a woman seems to add weight to the idea. They were about to be killed by a crowd after falling from the ship above. They said they were taken by miraculous men who’d showed them all kinds of marvelous things. They were told to tell others about it, yet at this time, such tales of exotic knowledge equated with an involvement in the devils work and they were moments from death by the crowd when the archbishop convinced everyone that the whole affair was impossible and surely an illusion. So, with the Archbishops personal denial over what he likely saw as well, and the pacification of the crowd the lives of this group of unfortunates were saved.

This really is odd when you consider that priests of the time were at the forefront of  drive to execute anyone with a rumored dark hobby or brush with the bizarre.  For him to defend these people and his presence at the location, seems to suggest he likewise saw it. He had some  reason to believe them, to steer the frightened angry populace away.

So, we have the recorded words of , not just a priest, but an Arch-Bishop in a time when priests as well as the common man could be burned for such talk.

This says volumes  to me about the mans believability for even in diffusing the crowd he still used the occasion to tell this tale, one that if  untrue, he would have felt less need to record.   We have not only the evidence of his awareness, but the fact it was common knowledge in the area.   Of course, this was more a technological marvel than a mystical land hidden among the clouds and the ships vessels coming to it after their interactions with the villagers were small patrols  or raiding craft returning to a larger one.   At any rate this seems much more likely than a land supported by vapors.  We have to remember also that in claiming “strange ships” flew up to this place, there has been an acknowledgement of vehicles of flight, material ones capable of carrying away captives, abductees. That alone in 779AD  explains the importance of this record by this man .one of many of the small patrolling crasft, this one flew to our position in a flash then just hovered watching us as we freeked and drove away,,  they are children of the motherships.

As far as the other beings  of legends and mythology, there are stories about figures with mechanical wings and those with the benefit of natural abilities of flight seen in the wilderness of Russia, over towns and cities in America, and reported at the gates of U.S. military bases, overseas, in both Japan and Vietnam, figures, bat-like in appearance. One was fired upon( Read about the Tengu In previous articles).

I’m not sure how anyone, a preacher, mechanic or president, could profess with surety to know everything that is out there, to know without a doubt what every corner of the night holds.   Recently a preacher on Facebook commented that “unless its mentioned in the Bible  it doesn’t exist”.

Okay- Just off the top of our heads lets see what is mentioned in the bible;

1-First there are 27 other Gods mentioned, at this site they are listed with the verses where they are mentioned—http://www.holysmoke.org/hs00/bible2.htm

There are  also the following:  Angels, those still in his grace,, and those fallen and those still at odds with man and God.bubba the river monster,/ notice the rounded shape with two eyes in the water near him.

There are Cherubim,  Seraphim,  Arch- Angel, Demons, Serpents,  Cockatrices,   Behemoth-the giant beast of land and lakes, Satyr’s, Dragons, and  Leviathan- the creature of the deep.

There are unicorns,  a large lizard( the one worshiped as a god  by  king Nebuchadnezzar) slain by Daniel.  There are the Raphaim , the Nephilim, the Zuzim, the Emim,  the Ho-rites, and others (many of these were groups  in which  giants dwelled.  They did so during the time of David)

It makes you wonder, with God flooding the whole  earth to rid it of the Giants seed among other evils, just how were some spared, whisked away? How were they still breeding in Davids time?  How do we get people out of flooding areas when there’s no other option?  We airlift them.  What possibilities were there for air travel then, aside from the vehicles of extraterrestrial nature?

About Leviathon—-Job 41: Canst thou draw out leviathan with an hook? or his tongue with a cord which thou lettest down? Canst thou put an hook into his nose? or bore his jaw through with a thorn? Will he make many supplications unto thee? will he speak soft words unto thee? …Behold, the hope of him is in vain: shall not one be cast down even at the sight of him? None is so fierce that dare stir him up: who then is able to stand before me? …His scales are his pride, shut up together as with a close seal. One is so near to another, that no air can come between them. They are joined one to another, they stick together, that they cannot be sundered. By his neesings a light doth shine, and his eyes are like the eyelids of the morning. Out of his mouth go burning lamps, and sparks of fire leap out. Out of his nostrils goeth smoke, as out of a seething pot or caldron. His breath kindleth coals, and a flame goeth out of his mouth. In his neck remaineth strength, and sorrow is turned into joy before him. The flakes of his flesh are joined together: they are firm in themselves; they cannot be moved. His heart is as firm as a stone; yea, as hard as a piece of the nether millstone. When he raiseth up himself, the mighty are afraid: by reason of breaking s they purify themselves. The sword of him that layeth at him cannot hold: the spear, the dart, nor the habergeon. He esteemeth iron as straw, and brass as rotten wood. The arrow cannot make him flee: slingstones are turned with him into stubble. Darts are counted as stubble: he laugheth at the shaking of a spear. Sharp stones are under him: he spreadeth sharp pointed things upon the mire. He maketh the deep to boil like a pot: he maketh the sea like a pot of ointment. He maketh a path to shine after him; one would think the deep to be hoary. Upon earth there is not his like, who is made without fear. He beholdeth all high things: he is a king over all the children of pride.river monster of the osage,

About BEHEMOUTH,,——Job 41:

eye on a tree

melevalant stairing eye, that i found maybe 3o ft on the other side of a property fence,, it looked wet and glaring then closed or dissapeared not evident in later shots.

Job 40:15-24  Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox. Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly. He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together. His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron. He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him. Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play. He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens. The shady trees cover him with their shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about. Behold, he drinketh up a river, and hasteth not: he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth.He taketh it with his eyes: his nose pierceth through snares.

My answer to my friend is this,  all these things are listed in the Bible as having been realities.

If we take the scriptures at their word and as Christians believe, surely it is a small leap from giants and monsters of all descriptions to UFOs.   God destroyed the earth with water to stop the giants and their offspring from taking over the world he’d created for us, to stop the corruption of it, but the question remains “How were the giants still a force to be reckoned with in Davids time?  If we are to believe the Bible word for word, which I do, it leaves no other possibility but OUTSIDE INTERVENTION.

When you start tying the stories from the bible with medieval records and on to those of our time, the reason for this scrutiny should be very apparent.

Being a Christian is more than a belief in God and the afterlife. It has to be a belief in the only manual we have to guide us to success in our efforts to truly be the children of God. Likewise, we must have faith and believe in the word in all its completeness, in every detail,  no matter how wonderfully confusing at times  and frightening. To do less is to sabotage our own efforts with doubt.We dont know what it is, but the night i took its pictureand it appeared out of nowhere i was cut ion my chest through my clothing ,, my clothing was unharmed but i had a nearly footlong scratch bleeding just below my chest muscles. A CREATURE HIDDEN IN THE BRUSH NEAR THE COMPANY THAT PROCESSES LOGS , THIS CONNECTS TO A PIPE RUNNING OVER TO THE MOUND,

What, exactly, constitutes and angel and were they Gods only attempts at such beings?  We know that at least one group failed in their loyalty. What requirements are there, if any, for  God to tell us everything? There are none.    What do we know that the Archbishop of Lyons, did not?

There is no ceasing in the electronic marvels we struggle to perfect and the products that become obsolete within a few years time as new updated versions  take their place.   The world around us, once full of the invisible, has allowed us a window to see and learn. Now we harness these still invisible forces to light our lives and power our toys and to communicate with.    We may see ourselves as masters of the beasts of the sky and  fields, but there may be  others yet unknown to us  that  wait to challenge our claim.

Fairy tale or misinterpretation of fact? It’s all a matter of how you look at it.

Richard Carter

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